Nokian might be a tire maker unfamiliar to many readers. Nokia, the Finnish phone company? I think I had one of their cellphones with that charming tonal ringtone like 20 years ago? “Duh-duh-duh, duh-duh-duh-duh, duh-duh-duh-duh-duuuhhh.” No, that’s Nokia. Nokian, also Finnish, is the 19th-biggest tire brand in the world, so, not really a household name. If you drive often on ice and snow, however, it should be. Nokian introduced the first dedicated winter tire more than 80 years ago, after first making boot soles designed for snow. Finns, and Nokian, know a heck of a lot about driving, period (ever see how many F-1 drivers are from Finland?), but especially so about driving in harsh winter conditions.
Their new Outpost APT, or All-Purpose-Terrain, shows that heritage masterfully in a tire you can (and should) run all year-round, if you drive in the dirt and on roads, which, of course you do. It’s essentially what you’d think of as a standard AT tire, just with the harshest edges rounded off so it’s more pleasant to drive on pavement. It’s designed for CUVs and smaller SUVs, with the road manners of an all-season, but with terrific grip when things get messy.
Now, tire reviews are almost ridiculously subjective and relative to the car, driver, day, location, temperature, wind, bird song, position of Saturn’s moons, how much coffee you had, what your favorite song is, etc. Your mileage may vary, in other words.
I’ve had the Outposts fitted to my 2016 Subaru Outback for about 3 months now. My Subie has the 2.5-liter engine, a mild 1.5″ lift kit, and heavy heavy metal skidplates, all of which add their own little wrinkles to my experience. They replace a set of Yokohama Geolandar ATs, the same tires you now get stock on Wilderness editions of the Outback and Forester. My gas mileage is exactly the same with the Outposts as it was with the Yokos. Those in turn replaced the stock all-season tires the car came with that I hated and replaced within two weeks. I did not take these Nokian tires to a dedicated winter tire testing facility. I did not switch them back and forth with the Yokos for comparison. I tried to drive on the same roads in reasonably the same conditions I typically encounter in the winter, but that’s not much of a control.
The Outpost APT is an all-new tire for Nokian, meant for adventuring, though not hardcore off-roading. (Nokian makes a tire called the Outpost AT for that, if you’re interested, though most of their passenger car and SUV tires are focused squarely on the road.)
The tire has what I would consider a blocky tread pattern, with hard-edged shoulders, large and tightly packed lugs, and deep grooves running through the center of the tire’s tread to channel out water. There are gravel guards—thick strips of protection between the grooves to prevent rocks from getting caught in the tread, then grinding through the rubber to the steel belts below. Nokian beefs up the sidewall with aramid fibers to resist punctures too. It has a symmetrical tread pattern though the sidewalls are different on either side; one has an aggressive-looking tread pattern on the wall, common to many AT tires now, while the other has a diamond, or maybe snowflake pattern. Speaking of, they are stamped with the three-peak mountain snowflake symbol (3PMSF), meaning they’ve satisfied the criteria for severe snow duty as stipulated by the U.S. Tire Manufacturers Association.
My first impressions were these tires looked solid, rugged, and dependable, without being flashy. The Falken Wildpeaks are all the rage these days on Tacomas and Subarus, and many other vehicles that do plenty of dirt driving and they may be great tires, but they’re way, way too busy-looking for my taste. The Outposts look a lot like Michelin Defenders from the side—squared off lugs, without any “hey, look at me, I’m an off-road tire” bling.
From this angle, they’re just…tires. Nothing flashy.
Because we didn’t get our first snowfall in the Sierra until December, really, the first couple months I had these tires I spent most of my time testing them in mud. Because, boy, howdy has it rained in Northern California this year. For tires that skew toward the lighter side of off-roading, these puppies dig and claw very well in soft, wet soil. I spent a day testing my limits in a receded lake bed near Truckee, (legal driving) and every time I spun my tires through the muck, I expected to get stuck. Never did. During rainy driving on roads, they’re easily the most confidence-inspiring tire I’ve driven.
The tires have no problem at all climbing on rocky, rutted forest service roads too. They’re grippier than the Yokos off-road, in my experience. While they’re not built for serious off-road use, I think they’d serve you just fine if that’s your bag.
On snow: please. While I can’t remember ever being let down by the Yokos in snow in years past, the Outposts feel like you’ve gotten out and installed tire cables. Old snow, new snow, icy snow, slushy snow, muddy snow—it didn’t matter. There’s a burger place I like in Arnold, California, a little town at about 5,000 feet, in the northern Sierra, with a steep climb from the parking area. In winter, I’ve watched lots of 4x4s and cars with AWD spin their tires and reverse back down the slope, tail between their legs. A few weeks back I headed there to see how the Outposts did. A Ford Explorer with AWD and AT tires spun and struggled for grip getting up the hill ahead of me. I went next, and with no drama whatsoever climbed right up the road without so much as the traction control lighting up. Part of that is Subaru’s excellent AWD system, but I’ve spun wheels there before in the same car. Not with the Outposts.
Nice sharp shoulders for grip, with great siping for more bite.
Gripes? They are louder than the Yokos, that should be said. Not as loud a real-deal ATs or the plodding, whirring KO2s, but you can definitely hear these once you get moving at over 25 mph or so. I also had a hard time picking which side I wanted mounted outward, does that count as a gripe?
I don’t believe any cars in the U.S. can be had from the factory with Nokians, but Subaru should consider it. The road manners are excellent with the Outposts, and the off-road performance is great, especially when it gets cold and snowy, exactly why so many of us drive Subarus.
Again, relative. Subjective. I can’t possibly speak to what you drive or where. I’ve had my car for a few years now, and these are my favorite tires thus far. I liked the Yokos. I really, really like the Outposts. Oh, before I forget, Nokians have a built-in tire life indicator, which is the coolest thing. As the treads wear down, percentage symbols are worn away, showing you how much life the treads have left. Brilliant. (You can see it in the photo above).
Nokian is pushing hard into the North American market, and these new Outposts will be made in their Dayton, Tennessee, factory. We’re unsure about pricing at this point, but the tires these likely replace in the Nokian lineup, the Rotiiva, go for about $180-200 depending on tire size. Not cheap by any means, but the best tires never, ever are.
Nice. I put Cooper Discoverer AT3 4S on my 2016 OB (in lieu of my usual BFG AT/KOs for light trucks) and I love them! My impression of the Coopers matches a lot of what you described about the Nokians, aggressive tread but rounded shoulders for less noise. Lighter tire suitable for smaller SUVs. Absolutely eats snow and ice! And they are a bit less than the Nokians, though I suspect that has to do with the difference in sidewall construction, I don’t think the Copper’s have any extra armor there.
Great summary/ article! I agree, Nokians are a great tire. Ran them on my Silverado for years; grippy quiet. My buddy got them on his 09 FJ Cruiser “fabulous”.
I’ve been considering a second set of wheels for our outback with something like this on it. Just don’t want to have them on for my long freeway drives to the office once a month or two. But the rest of the time, they’d be fantastic.
I would not hesitate to run these even with long drives. They handle wonderfully on the road.
Nearly two decades ago I saw winter rally cars racing on sheet ice with a tire I never heard of- Nokian. I found the AT tires to be $20 more per tire then popular domestic brands and decided to try them. Ever since I have not purchased any other brand for the series of Montana vans, pick ups and Tahoe’s we have owned. When they opened a factory in the US I saw price and availability come into line with their competition. And with each series improment Nokian has taken only the best if the earlier series and built an even better tire. Only mishit was a set of HT I tried. Still great tires that were quieter and gave me several MPG better in a Tahoe, they just were not the tree climbing monkey gripper ice tires I was used to. So I went back to the higher grip and noise of the AT after the HT has worn. I also find Nokian wear excellent and often got 25% more miles on then beyond the manufacturer’s claims.
You won’t see any vehicles from the factory with these, Nokian doesn’t sell to OEMs
I’m a huge Nokian fan. We put WR G4’s on our Outback back in 2017. I wanted a year round, snow rated tire for our cold Minnesota winters and I was hooked the first time I drove with them on snow. We’ll be putting WR G4’s on our Ascent as well and our WRX has a set of Hakkapeliitta R3’s. I’ve also interacted with Nokian via email and social media and they’ve been very cool to talk to.
I wanted to like nokians after hearing so many positive reviews of their snow tires. We put some of their entyres on our car a few years back and they were great all around EXCEPT they only lasted half the miles the wear life warranty suggested they would.. I hope you have better luck with these.
I never run my tires for more than 20,000 miles anyway.
I got 40,000 on my Nokia WRG3 driving a 10,000lb van(empty weight) that normally has between 5-14 passengers in it. Could go 50k but not with the winters we have in Utah
Did you like the WRG3? I had some on my 03 Outback and found winter performance to be lacking. I know they have been replaced and I’ve heard the G4 is much better.
If you want real snow/wintertyres you should get the Nokian Hakapelitta SUV 9
Very nice review, For me, the gold standard for winter tires – stopping distance. Spinning out on snow is affected by driving skill. Rapid stopping on snow or snow at 0*C is the test for me.
Love my Rotiivas. I’d can’t imagine these being better off-,road though but maybe the Outpost AT would be
On my second set of WRG4’S on my highlander – how good are they ??? When you can plow through 2+feet of snow ( mammoth lakes ) you know they are good. Also, great in the rain,, Nokian makes great 4 season tires
I had Nokian hakkapeliitta winter on my 2003 MDX for 18 years ( 2 sets) and 220,000 k .
Just installed hakkapeliitta 9 on my new 2021 4 runner .
Will never buy anything other than Nokian for winter
I am looking for a new set of tires for my RAM 3500 4×4 and was wondering if anyone has experience with these tires used in towing? I live in Wyoming and drive year round in the mountains with snow, ice, mud and pavement. In the summer I pull a heavy bumper pull trailer (11,300 lbs.) with a tongue weight of 860lbs. My Cooper AT3’s do well but wear out quickly, 35,000 to 45,000 miles. Please post if you have any input good or bad.
These JUST came out in the last month, so there won’t be any long-term towing reviews yet.
How’s the noise on them as compared to the Wildpeak A/T Trails? It’s pretty much a direct competitor to those (much lauded by Subaru owners) – I’m on the fence in between both..
They were a tad louder than the Yokohamas I had on before, but I definitely wouldn’t consider them loud. I haven’t had the Falkens so can’t directly compare.
In my experience the Wildpeak AT3W was no louder than the Nokian WR G4 on my Land Rover. It was a surprisingly pleasant tire on the highway for as aggressive as the tread pattern is although I did get 1-2 mpg less. I can’t recommend them highly enough.
Thanks for the review! Can you confirm if this was sponsored by Nokian in any way?
Just found this article on their website about your review: https://www.nokiantires.com/blogs/why-one-adventurer-thinks-the-outpost-is-the-ultimate-all-terrain-tire/
We don’t do sponsored posts, ever. They read my review and asked if I’d go on their podcast to talk about the tires–that’s where the quotes came from.
That’s awesome and good to know. Great review, I was looking into getting a set for my first gen Toyota RAV4.
We’re getting a set for our ’17 RAV4 when its current all-seasons wear out.
Thanks for the review. I am looking for tires for our new outback. We live in Washington state and get all four seasons, spending most weekends up on the ski hill, transiting rainy and snowy conditions along the way. Very interested in these tires.
Thanks in part to your review I ended up picking up a set of these for my Volvo adventure rig! I love them so far. Everything you’ve said I found to be true. I was initially attracted to them because “they’re not Falkens” and their sidewall design peaked my interest. I’ve only tested them in dirt and gravel so far but they were flawless. I felt very comfortable blasting these tires down a gravel road at speeds that would have been sketchy in the Continental all-seasons they replaced. Something I found that you didn’t really mention is that they’re fantastic on road!! Super comfortable, they take road imperfections great, and they handle surprisingly well in the twisties. I’m glad I hopped on it before the Outpost series gets more well known and their prices go up to match the rest of the growing “trail” tire segment.
Glad to hear it. I’ve since sold that Subaru to buy a 2016 Nissan Frontier 4×4 and first thing I did was get the beefier AT version of the Outposts. Love them too.
Justin, How are the AT’s working out on the Frontier? I have a 4×4 Frontier and am considering these for my next set, however I am really interested in how they perform in the wet. I live in Seattle and live most of the year in the rain, but also got out into the mountains and forest roads a good bit as well. I would be interested in your thoughts on the AT’s
Fantastic. I haven’t had ’em in snow yet, but they’re terrific off-road and have excellent grip in the rain. I have the SV 4×4 but I’m running the 265/75/R16 – the stock size for the Pro-4x and I believe they only come in LT. So they’re heavy. Keep that in mind if you want that size.
Great! Thanks for the info. I may go for the LT and understand the weight/mileage penalty.
Justin, I’m in a situation. I don’t want to switch between 3 sets of tires. I’m looking at only one alternate set that I can run for 3 months in the winter here in Metro Vancouver BC (for trips to Whistler and local mountains), and for 1 month of occasional/casual off-roading in the summer (in well-moderate maintained forest service roads, with spotty shale), nothing too severe. The Outpost APT would be ideal for this I think. However, considering I live in the city, the amount of street vs. off-road time would favour something like a WRG4 instead (winters here in Vancouver are typically 1 week of snow on the ground with temps between 0 and -5C. We may get an occasional cold clear snap that takes us down to -15C. Rest of winter/spring is rain as most people know). Can you please comment on whether the WRG4 or Outpost APT would be better in my use scenario please?
Well I’ve never had the WRG4s. They look like terrific wet road tires. Personally, I’d rather have a tire that has a bit more grip in dirt, like the APTs, even if 90% of the time I don’t really need it, because that 10% of the time when I do need it, I REALLY need it. I don’t feel like the APTs are too aggressive for daily driving on pavement. They’re far more composed on the road than a true all-terrain tire. The WRG4s look like performance tires that really don’t want to leave the road at all. I’m sure they’d do fine on well-maintained dirt roads a little bit but I’d imagine they’d be more prone to punctures. Plus, what if you see a dirt road off the main dirt road that isn’t as well-maintained and you want to check it out?
Thanks for your quick feedback!
My situation is that I have a new car being delivered to me in January. My hand is being forced to pre-emptively purchase rims and tires (before the mad winter rush for tires). It’s kind of too late for me re the APT as they are out of stock in North America. That’s why I was considering the WRG4 (there’s a lot of these floating around it seems). However, based on your comments. I think I’ll hit the used tire market, find a set of used winter tires that’ll get me through a single winter season. It’ll set me back $400CDN, but then I can get the APT when they do come back into stock some time in the spring. Best part is that they’ll be coming from their new factory in Tennessee. So yes, while I’m Canadian, I’ll always support Made in USA!
You said it right; nobody would want to be caught out in the back country with a shredded sidewall. I’ll be patient and wait for the APT then!
Thanks again.
Andrew
Andrew,
As you may know, for the Canadian market, Nokian Tyres are only available through Kal Tire outlets. In late July of this year, Kal Tire moved heaven and earth to find me 5 Outpost APT’s in 225/65R17 to install on my ’21 Subaru Crosstrek Outdoor. That set of 5 tires had to come from 3 different Kal Tire shops across Canada. So Outpost APT inventory was already very low in mid-summer of 2022.
The Outpost APT is such wonderfully balanced tire. It behaves like an all-season highway tire on dry and wet pavement, They’re very predictable on twisty, graveled roads (once you set-up your counter-steer, you can steer the car just with the accelerator pedal) and the winter performance is just shy of what a dedicated, studless winter tire can offer.
On snow-packed or icy washboarded gravel roads, the Outpost APT’s get a bit unsettled at OEM-specified tire pressures (too “bouncy”) but running tire pressures lower than spec by 3-5psi improves control noticeably.
I dunno if future Outpost APT tire production will be from Nokian’s Russian tire plant or their Dayton, Tennessee tire plant. My early 2022-produced Outpost APT’s were made in Russia.
Whatever the production plant location might be, the wait for fresh Outpost APT tire inventory will be worth it. Call Kal Tire and place a back-order.
Then you probably got the last 5 available in Canada! Yes, Kal-Tire is the only seller of Nokians here in Canada, so you are very lucky indeed.
Instead of going for a set of used winters in the interim, I decided to fork a bit more and get a set imported from the ‘States courtesy of Ebay. It’s arriving sometime mid-November. While under normal circumstances I’d wait for them to be available from Kal-Tire again in the spring. But (I didn’t mention this) the reason for my rather expedient purchase is because I’m in a bit of a situation. I ordered a new car (Hyundai Kona N-Line) a 1.5 months ago and was 85th in the production line for Canada at the time and expected a late spring delivery. Fast forward to a couple weeks ago, I was notified by the Hyundai system that my car is scheduled to be in production in November, and a delivery of January! The situation is that my current car (a 2013 Ford Focus ST) I have a dealership-approved winter tire package. If the Kona is arriving in January, then I know I’m going to be caught with my pants down with no winter tires. And you know how busy it is this time of year for winter tire purchases. Yeah I’m in a scramble to do some minor refurbs on my ST and to assemble an alternate tire set for the Kona. I’m planning to either sell privately just prior to the Kona’s arrival or do a simple trade-in.
Kal-Tire told me that the current production line of APT has sold out and they won’t be available again until the spring. And yes, they will be made at the Dayton (Tennessee) plant for the 2023 production. Kal-Tire also told me that Nokian narrowly missed a “messy situation” themselves re the Russia plant. They had to close it (for obvious reasons). It just so happened that the Dayton plant was in the works even before the war began.
Thanks for your feedback re the APT. It sounds like for my use scenario the APT is ideal.
Lowering the pressure by 3-5 psi brings up an interesting point. My owners manual (and from what I can tell, this is commonly mentioned for other car makes) says to increase tire pressure by 3-5 psi beyond the spec on the door placard to mitigate the squirlliness and vage handling common to winter tires. Seriously.
Wouldn’t lowering the psi result in higher fuel consumption and a degradation in handling? What’s your experience with this?
A great review. I have run Nokian Hakkapeliitta in the winter for decades on 5 different vehicles and they have served we very well. I will consider the Outpost APT when I have to replace my current tires on my Outback.
Indeed, increasing a winter tire’s inflation pressure will improve a vehicle’s responsiveness to steering inputs on relatively smooth tarmac, hard-packed snow or ice. And it does lower a tire’s rolling resistance, thus improving fuel economy. But this holds true for most any category of tire.
On rougher surfaces, the trade-off with higher tire pressure is that it will have a detrimental effect on the tire’s ability to conform to surface irregularities, leading to more cycling of the suspension and thus reducing control, particularly at speed. Tires are an inherent component of a vehicle’s overall suspension system, both for vehicle dynamics and occupant comfort. Higher tire pressure reduces puncture resistance, ride comfort and traction (due to a reduction in tire contact patch size).
There’s more to complicate matters. Car manufacturers are moving to ever larger wheel diameters and tires with lower aspect ratios. Many OEM tires sizes are now 55 or 60-series in terms of aspect ratio. While that improves handling and, in most cases, fuel economy, it also results in a tire with less impact resistance, a rougher ride (due to less tire sidewall height) and lesser capability for running them at reduced tire pressures. This is the rationale behind choosing a smaller-than-OEM wheel diameter in combination with a higher aspect ratio tire size (e.g. 65 or 70-series) for a set of dedicated winter tires.
In short, “squirmy” winter tires certainly will be more responsive with higher tire pressures but you will have less adhesion on slick, rough or loose surfaces. I’ll gladly sacrifice a bit of handling crispness in order to gain more “stick” to surface over which I’m traveling.
OK, my review! This after snowmageddon in Metro Vancouver. The conditions were ripe for mayhem and mayhem it was, especially in a city where 47% of people have yet to install winter tires. It was -1C and 2pm then the snow started. It kept going for the rest of the afternoon and into the late evening. Temps fluctuated between 1C and -1C depending on the microclimate. Traffic was gridlocked everywhere with many slipping and sliding and crashing into things. I was with my son and left his martial arts dojo at 6:30pm. Got within 3 km of my place but all access routes to the top of the hill where I lived were grid-locked. Had dinner at a local mall and then by 9:30 pm decided to drive 15 km west where the traffic wasn’t as bad and spent the night at relatives. Commuters were stuck on highways past midnight. By the time I arrived at my relatives, 15 to 20 cm had fallen depending on where you were. Despite my rant it really shows the chaos that ensues here in the west when the snow does come. But it sets the stage for my actual review.
During the chaos, my set of APTs faced deep puddles, slush, powder snow, deep snow compact snow, and ice, and many hills. Quite the shakedown indeed. But in one word, confidence! Yes, the APT is considered an all-weather tire. But despite this classification, I’d have to say that they exceeded my expectations for an all-weather, and exceeded the grip and handling on my previous set of General Altimax Arctic, seriously. I had no problems driving off on a stand-still on either level or uphills, and no problems stopping whatsoever. My car was stable and I was in complete control at all times.
This is the winter review. I’ll be back for a summer (limited) off-road review.
Just a further follow-up. Here in Metro Vancouver, we’ve had about 5 days of < -10C nights followed by a quick warm up yesterday which included 10 cm of ice pellets, followed by freezing rain, then heavy rain. During the ice pellet phase, air temps transitioned from -10C to 0C in about 12 hours. As can be expected in the normally wet-coast, our highway conditions were pathetically poor and covered with compacted ice pellets. Two major bridges were closed. Thank goodness the public largely stayed at home and roads were mostly traffic-free. The odd spun out vehicle was spotted. Despite the warnings, there were still some who ventured out with all-seasons and were slipping and spinning around in the municipal streets and even on minor hills. Big fail to those people.
The Outpost APT remained pliable during the preceding arctic outflow conditions at -12C. Car had no problems navigating the compacted snow and ice that had accumulated. During the warm-up, which followed, I did experience some wobbling in parking lots which were coated in ice pellets, but the car quickly righted itself upon correction maneuvers. On the highway, during lane changes, the car remained stable and confidently plowed through the ice pellet piles between the lanes and within the lanes themselves.
Perhaps my car having AWD is a factor. But having additional clearance (7.3") (compared to my Focus ST at 4.5"), AWD, and the Nokian Outpost APT was a winning combo during these difficult few weeks here in Metro Vancouver. Definitely a step up from the older General Altimax Arctic (dedicated winter) I had on my ST. Very impressive for a mild off-road tire.
Had thr WRG3’S on my 3016 Forester, the WRG4’S on my 2019 Forester and now have the Outpost APT’s on my 2022 Forester. Needless to say I’m a Nokian fan. Conversely I will say so far the APT’S have disappointed me in every way so far. I’m hoping they rip through snow, if we ever get anything substantial this winter in lower New York. Took them on the sand and immediately got off the beach as soon as I could. I feel the the prior tires performed so much better. As far as rain goes, all electronics have kicked in when cornering at not necessarily high speeds. If no electronics are in applied I definitely feel slipping. On dry pavement they perform well but not like the other Nokes. I’ve had. Definitely don’t feel as “grippy” cornering. I’ve tested this on a particular exit on my commute to work. Definitely have to approach it at least 5mph slower than the GR3’s and 4’s. Havent taken them on any rocks or backwoods. That may be where they shine, but I can’t say. Hoping they don’t let me down come out 1st snowfall. Not sure I will be buying these again. I’ll probably go back to the WRG4’S which are more suited for my driving conditions.
Well, the WRG3/4 are highway tires. They’re designed specifically for high performance on pavement. The APTs are designed for perfectly good performance on pavement and excellent performance on dirt. I never had the electronics kick on when cornering. Is your last name Andretti by any chance? Rahal? Earnhardt?
I think I have to agree. The APT would definitely not be optimized for road. As they are a light-off road, they have very soft sidewalls and deep treads (13/32″). When the temps here are above 5C, the tires squirm and hard stops/starts are its weakness. But this was somewhat mitigated by an additional 5 psi over the car’s side placard spec for each tire.
My car owner’s manual even says that an additional 5 psi is acceptable for winter tires, especially when temps are known to be falling. Maybe try this?
Have a 2015 Highlander that has seen several sets of tires. Two sets replaced long before they wore out due to a local ‘nail bandit’ dropping boxes of nails on our local roadways. Sidewall punctures, and multiple punctures in close proximity within tread. It got damn expensive. Most recent set was the Nokian Outpost APT recommended by a local independent shop. It’s wet here – a lot in the Pacific Northwest. The APT’s have been great. Perhaps slightly more road noise, but nothing like the worn out Firestones from the factory. A recent snow an ice storm has me sold. Excellent traction and stopping. Hard to say they are the best, but when (if) my 2023 Maverick arrives, I’m planning to upgrade to APTs quickly.
Great review, thank you. I had the older Nokias Rotiiva on my 2004 F350 and they were fabulous in all the similar conditions, deep snow or ice roads here in Wyoming. Stopped in the middle of a steep hill in 2WD to test it out. No spinning, just went about its’ business without any drama. Looking at getting a Jeep Cherokee trail hawk and was going back and forth between this tire and the Yokos (put those on my wife’s subaru, work great), but you convinced me to stick with this company I am very impressed with.
The big plus for me is that post 2021, all Nokians sold in North America are “Made in USA” (Dayton, Tennessee). Yes, this was a factor, even as a Canadian.