Since Christmas, there have been only 3 or 4 days without rain in much of California. And not just rain, but torrential rain. You’ve likely seen the flooding and mudslides on the news. For many people it’s been a disaster, one that is likely to become increasingly more common in the coming decades.
But enough bad news — have you seen the snowpack? The first few storms that hit in late December and earlier this month were pretty warm so snow levels remained well above 7,000 feet. But each successive storm dumped feet of snow and they just kept coming.
As of yesterday, snowpack levels in the Sierra Nevada had reached 250% of normal. 250%! Doesn’t matter where you go, if it snows there, it’s buried. Far Northern California is around 200% of normal, Tahoe is about 250%, and the southern Sierra has readings edging close to 300%.
Will this make Californians feel better later this summer when it hasn’t rained for nine months? Who knows? But my goodness look at this image. California likely has the deepest snowpack on the planet right now.
California's Sierra Nevada range 80 days ago versus today.
These mountains likely currently hold the biggest snowpack on the planet. pic.twitter.com/b5Lo0gnuod
— Colin McCarthy (@US_Stormwatch) January 18, 2023
They’ll have more water in the spring those people in California complain if you don’t have any snow and then you complain if you do
It’s “climate change” if there’s no snow/rain; and it’s “climate change” if there is. BULLSHIT
Climate change is in the swing between extreme events, like extreme droughts followed by floods, not in mere weather.
You evidently have not heard of the dust bowl days of the 1930s. They estimate that the snowfall in the Sierras won the Donner party was trapped to have exceeded 700 inches.
Hmmm. Last I remembered the Donner party was stranded in 1846, not the 1930’s when the dust bowl happened.
You apparently haven’t heard of science.
Donner party was 1846-1847. Your snowfall numbers are wrong too
This guy ( Dan B.) who wrongfully claims your “Dust Bowl” dates were not correct…” Well um Dan,um ,last time i checked, Steve’s dates are Correct, um Dan, ” The Dirty 30’s”is the Dust Bowl’s A.K.A. Your dates incorrect! Good job Steve!
The dust bowl had nothing to do with climate changes.
The dust bowl was caused by man nothing else to much land worked and left with no cover crop and it blew away long story short
Buddy,The Donner Party was trapped in The Winter of 1846′-47’…
There was a Plains Dust Bowl in the 1930’s.
Read your History. Or correct your comment.
I got your dust bowl right here…. This is some good flower!
The dust bowl was a regional event, not a global event, it was caused by humans over-tilling the soil and poor farming practices. Without deep-rooted prairie grasses to hold the soil in place, it began to blow away. Eroding soil led to massive dust storms, and it rendered a large swath of the country as a dry oven due to the lands lack of ability to retain water. So, yeah, it wasn’t climate change but humans were a huge cause of it.
Lets just hope board of water resources doest blow it and let all this abundance of rain water water out of nor cals reservoirs like last year.
800 inches have fallen in Mammoth so far. They had to close the resort as they had to dig it out. Have lived in Calif for 67 years. Have never seen anything like this before. Hope water management doesn’t screw it up by releasing too much water from the reservoirs as they have done in the past.
It just” Donnered on me, maybe their grandchildren were taking the same route.
Mammoth has not received 800 inches of snow this year. Neither has this year been dramatically different from the cyclical precipitation that the Sierras regularly experience. Neither is an atmospheric river a new phenomenon. I can understand children are surprised by a lot of snow after a couple of years without it, but the adults on this thread don’t have that excuse.
Cycles of the cosmic wheel. Everything takes its turn. Accept abundance. Be Greatful for receiving. Peace to all
The dust bowl was predominantly caused by large investment in growing wheat and only wheat. This drained the soil of nutrients and plant life to hold the topsoil. With proper crop rotation the dust bowl wouldn’t have happened.
There is a book called The Worst Hard Times if anyone is interested in learning about the Dust Bowl. I lived in that area at the end of the Dust Bowl.
Climate change effects the weather in extremes so it is niw unpredictable and severe. It was just shown that the earths temperature has steadily being going up the last few years. Hence weather changes.
The earth has change many times over its millions of years of existence. I wonder if the dinosaurs called it global warning as well
Look up Bjorn Lomborh. He is on YouTube. He will give you a different persprctive.
These reported percentages are for this date! For the year, typically measured in April, we are still below average at some snow measurement stations. Please provide your readers with context. Thank you.
Exactly. Way above average for this time of year, but still less than 80% of the average yearly total. If the rain gates shut again (just like they did last year) we will still be short
Weather is always unpredictable. It goes from one extreme to another. This is all normal. Look at the past 25000 years of tree rings.
Yes you are correct. 1 April is the real date we usually take peak readings. At Tahoe they are above that number. 100+%.
If the dinosaurs caused combustion when they existed then yes.
Humans however….
All Very interesting.
Has anyone ever read about the California storm in December 1861 thru January 1862.
The San Joaquin Valley was flooded from Sacramento to Bakersfield.
Something like +10 feet of water covered the whole valley.
It’s all the earths cycle climate change is away for the the wealthy to control the people to make more money to have more control
Joe G., it sounds as if you don’t really understand why the current levels of global warming are believed to be due to the Industrial Age.
Not enough spacetime herenow to ‘splain it to you, though. Maybe try to look it up?
It’s too much snow and rain in too short of time. Just ask any climate activist. They’re all scientists after all.
We’re not all meteorologist, but listen to meteorologists instead of deciding we are experts on meteorology.
Stop whining and
be glad California has water.
Very common events in California.
The climate guru’s below are funny. “Climate change is extreme swings in weather but the extreme swings in weather before we knew about climate change isn’t climate change because nobody knew what climate change was back then making it non existent!”
Dan, can you see how ridiculous that sounds? Exaggerated a little but the same gist!
The figures are always compared to this point in the season, so this article is a bit optimistic. Compared to more than 60+ years ago these levels are a drop in the bucket. We used to have streets lined with plowed snow every year. One year the snow was 15-feet deep at 5,000-feet elevation. Just a bit of perspective…
There is absolutely no data whatsoever that suggest climate change is real responsible for “extremes” in weather events, this is a lazy media trope. What the science is conclusive on is that global temperatures are a little more than 1 degree warmer. This blaming of ups a`d downs on climate change is garbage and not science.
Wasn’t there an ice age 10,000 years ago or so? Just sayin’
The yearly rise in average global temperature is only one factor in the crisis we are facing. The 5 other major extinctions we’ve had on Earth have has several similar contributing factors: warming oceans, change in sea level, habitat loss, disruption in the food chain, and rapid climate changes that many species couldn’t adapt to fast enough. Now add in global pollution, massive human overpopulation, overconsumption of natural resources and large scale extinction of species. We are causing our own extinction by continuing to ignore the fact that we can’t keep living consumer lifestyles and overpopulating the planet. If we humans can’t stop fighting and competing as a global species and get it together we will all die of stupidity.
The climate has always been changing. Not sure why we think it should be predictable or account for our desire for things to always be gradual.
It was only a blink of an eye ago that glaciers 2 miles thick covered most of North America.
Or how about the California floods 150 some years ago that turned the Central Valley into a lake from Bakersfield to Redding.
Not to argue human activity doesn’t impact climate. But it’s a unique combination of arrogance and ignorance that suggests humans can control the climate like we do the interior of our cars.
“No”….
“Climate change” is a constant planetary event that will continue until the planet is “consumed” by our sun a few billion years from now. (whether we are here or not)
The “climate CO2 alarmist…”those that think human activity is causing “weather extremes” is really the question/debate. Given that: in 1900 @ 3M ppl lived in CA (fewer in surrounding states) and now CA boasts >33M e.g., roads, buildings and consumption of H2O, and the greatest CO2 reduction advocates are more often the greatest CO2 emitter’s, I’d simply say if the problem is “us”….good luck fixing it….lol
You say this like this is the first time California has had torrential rains and massive snow…. After a drought… Lived her since the 50’s not even close
Lived in California all my life 50 years. It’s exactly the same as it was when I was little. Droughts, floods and mudslides
Yes, it is correct. Climate change leads to bigger swings in weather, from drought to flood.
You seem unaware of the dust bowl days of the 1930s. When the Donner party was trapped in the Sierra. The snowfall is estimated to have exceeded 700 inches.
Where did you read that?
The information I can find says there was a lot of snow, but nowhere near 700 inches (58 feet)!
Tree stumps left after the Donner Party them down that winter were around 12 to 22 feet tall (meaning around 12-22 feet of the tree was buried in snow). That’s not even half of what you’re claiming.
Uhm the Donner party was during covered wagons, or the late 1800s.
The dust bowl was in the 1930s and people used cars.
Le sigh.
1846 wasthe year the Donner Party reached the Sierras and were stranded near Donner Lake due to heavy winter conditions. February 1847 is when the “rescue party” were finally successful in reaching what was left of the Donner Party. No Link to the 1930’s Dust Bowl. ( except both being extreme weather cycles)
“Weather extremes”? Like fingerprints.. NO TWO DAYS HAVE EVER BEEN THE SAME WEATHERWISE in history !!!! Therefore no two years have have ever been the same ! Nor will they be in the future! Because winter occurs the earth will have rain ! I.E. converging warm/cold air. We can’t predict where or when droughts/ rain will occur in the future ! WE CAN ONLY BE CERTAIN THAT THEY WILL OCCUR WITH VARIATIONS! “Climate Change” Espousers fail to see the insanity of the idea!! Here’s an analogy..Imagine a person holding a sign on Wall St that reads : The stock market fluctuates! The stock market fluctuates!!!! That person wouldn’t seem odd ?
Stop making sense. They don’t like facts
You should change your handle to “indoctrinated on Climate Change”
U all are getting way off topic who cares about the donor party and who cares about the dust bowl that was all 100yrs ago or more and when the state provides so much food and agriculture to the whole world we all should care!
At one point the Earth was a ball of Fire, then it became a vast ocean. Then we had the Ice Age, the ice melted whose fault was it at that time? If you’re standing in your living room then you get on a chair in your living room you will notice there is a climate change.
Everyone seems unaware that climate has ALWAYS changed and ALWAYS will…with or without benefit of mankind. If anyone can explain how mankind had ANYTHING WHATSOEVER to do with any ice age coming and going over the Earth’s history, I’d like to hear it…hmmm?
Yes the climate would change with or without us humans just as it has since formation of our planet. It is just changing more rapidly this time because we humans have changed the composition of the atmosphere to allow it to trap more and retain more heat. More heat means more energy and that means a more energetic, intense, and extreme climactic cycle. I believe in science above stupidity and knowledge above ignorance. I have and continue to do a lot of research on a variety of topics. One universal law I have learned above all else is that if people are closed minded to even the existence of something they don’t agree with no amount of educating on my part will ever change my mind. These people will argue that the climate has warmed and cooled in the past. Ask them how they know and they will have been taught by and educator, read it in a book, or saw it on tv. I have asked them why they think it’s true and it’s because somebody told me and this book days so. Well guess what? We have learned about the past climate through science and now when told that science says we are contributing to climate change they refuse to believe that. I don’t understand how you can pick and choose what you believe based on what you want to be true. As a scientist if the science tells me I am wrong I will go where it leads me as any good scientist would .We don’t let our personal feeling, wants, wishes, or beliefs influence our interpretation of the results. I’m as excited to be proven wrong as I am to be proven right because that means that I learned so something new. Not everybody in this comment section can say the same. Now prove me wrong on that statement.
It was cooling in the 70’s. Then global warming. Climat change is what they decided on so no matter what happens, even without cause, they can say “see? I told you so”.
Get educated. Then talk. In that order.
Why is it surprising we have bden polluting the earth for years and effecting eco systems and we were eroding the ozone layer until we banned fluorocarbons. Miraculously it started to reverse once we did that. Scientists use factual data not politics.
Getting Tae some time
Well said!! People just want attention. The weather will put the earth back in control.
Hey climate change deniers why are you reading the Post? We read and discuss facts here. If you find that offensive simply go back under the rocks you came out from and go back to mumbling amongst yourselves. Here’s a topic for you. The is earth is round. Discuss.
You have no facts. We also have facts. You are a climate change conspiracy fanatic
Not cooling in the 70’s it was hot smoggy and nasty throughout the 70’s no history needed I was there
Oh the smog was so bad in 73 when I flew in to LA when I got off the plane it tasted like exhast and I couldn’t see 27 feet 5 years later it was better but not good
Climate change isn’t simply whether or not there is or isn’t precipitation. Climate change is marked by wild swings of extremes, other unusual weather and seasonal patterns, sudden changes, and more.
So you are saying that climate change is marked by the climate changing? Who would have thought.
Wrong, ignorant one!
Agreed!!!
That’s not how it works. Climate change means the extremes of either end of the drought to monsoon spectrum are becoming more intense. Drought is a sign of climate change and so is severe rain and snow and blizzards.
Climate change is a natural occurrence that happens in cycles, we had an ice age about 10,000 years ago but it wasn’t man made then and it’s not now!
Oh yes it is
6 generations from California coast and we give you 6 thumbs up. Your right it bull *** and cow piucky TOO. We have seen it all before, I grew up in Santa Cruz county and what the news shows has happened All before. That why Rio flats and Capitola have sea walls!!
What part of change don’t you understand?
California’s drought is so devastating that they need to open the floodgates of our reservoirs and vent the excess drought into the ocean.
Please improve grammar/punctuation. A comma goes before the conjunction, “so.”
RTFO!
Please google “jet stream” or just continue to be proud of your ignorance.
This is exactly what science predicted. But there’s no convincing people like you that ignore facts and decades of research.
Global warming refers to ocean rivers warming up and locking up the natural flow of cold and hot.
Climate change refers to dramatic changes in weather on land. It’s real. Islands in the Pacific are going underwater. One island had to start putting their culture and island in the Meta verse to preserve their society. It’s real bro. An island being swallowed up by rising sea levels.
You are so right! Climate change is pure BS!
It’s nice to see the return of snow to the sierras I was raised n Truckee in the sixty’s and seventys nice to see it back to norma no climate change bullshit normal it’s called evolution
The key is in the word “change” I believe.
As in More Extreme. Folks whose communities are going up in flames in summer, and/or getting flooded out or buried in mud in winter are having very new weather experiences. Whether it’s caused by factors agreed upon by the public really doesn’t matter to them. The climate has changed, no bullshit.
Reading the comments on this post, It’s clear, anyone not in Cali, does seem to understand Cali. Debates on the Donner party and climate change, everything gets political. Of course, just call Californians dumb, because with that foolish logic every Californian is a political carbon copy. I have lived in Cali my whole life, I have seen droughts and floods, snow in Sacramento and years where there is little to no snow in Tahoe. Seems a lot of people think they are better and smarter than Californians, guess there states must be perfect, yep, mine isn’t…but it’s a beautiful place to live, we have everything from sandy beaches, redwoods, high mountains, amusement, and plenty more. I will not be leaving this state. If you don’t think climate charge is real, get a doctorate and prove them wrong, I don’t fucking care. I care more about the government fucking everything up and then charging us for the drought through higher water costs, and then NOT using the money to fix the dams. I was raised conservative for values not to be an ignorant fool that thinks my Party doesn’t lie or change agendas. Some things are real even when your party says their not, follow the money. Dems shouldn’t get excited, I hate your party more. Look there’s plenty of snow now, sure. Northern California will probably broker a deal with SoCal and then let a ton of water out to the ocean and say it was for the fish…that’s California politics since the state has gone blue. By the way, it was once a red state, it’s very decided here…don’t assume all Californians are dumb, many are not but if all your doing is spouting idiocy, of course the will ignore your dumb ass and hug their blue values. Use facts not bull shit, we’re not all beach bums living in shacks.
Homie clearly doesn’t understand how a climate works
Adults know the truth.
Humans have released so many petrochemicals into the air and ground for hundreds of years that we’ve pushed off the balance of salinity in the oceans and the temperature pendulum from pole to pole…
So we get extreme weather. Hot or cold.
Stick your head in the sand and keep pretending bc it’s scary and overwhelming…
But don’t be a jerk to those of us trying to deal with reality without you.
I really don’t think that californiaans are complaining about the snowpack. More like they are marveling about it. And yes our climate is changing all the time. Unfortunately, worse for many. In the multi thousand year long run it would have changed on its own but humans have simply sped it up. They always have to have everything fast fast. Climate change is no exception.
For real! Climate change is a crock
Right on!
We got buried her in South Lake Tahoe, but after 37 years, I’m still not impressed!!!!
I just dropped IQ by reading this. Damn, there are some dumb MFRs out there.
The climate scientists said this week that it was not appropriate to claim that the current heavy participation is indicative of climate change.
Actually, extreme drought and extreme precipitation have been part of climate change models.
I do find it interesting how many people think it is a hoax now while in the 1970’s Exxon and other oil companies hid data that showed their products would change the climate.
You are obviously clueless as to what the dynamics of climate change are get educated before you make assumptions
You’re SPOT ON!!!
Robert, I live here in Northern California, and I don’t know any Californians who complain about getting a ton of snow. The fact is we love it and need it! I’ve heard nobody complain about it. We are rejoicing and thanking God for this very abundant snowpack.
The people complaining are narrow minded and don’t grasp the whole picture. I am always thrilled when it rains and snows! I am just glad this time there is a slight break in between storms for the ground to absorb the rain!
That’s not true! (That nobody is complaining) Almost every single article I read on this topic complains about “climate change.” Thats the media’s go-to narrative and they will stop at nothing to protect it. But you can’t change the facts….it snowed A LOT! If California reservoirs are not 100% full this Spring, you’ll know they will say and do anything to protect their narrative!
If only the people weren’t so ignorant and world stop believing these warming lies.
Global warming doesn’t mean there will never be snow or that sometimes there won’t be a lot of snow!! If only people knew the difference between weather vs climate, knew the indications of climate change such as wild extremes and sudden changes to climate trends, and knew what they were talking about before formulating opinions and spewing them.
What are warming lies? Perhaps you are talking about ocean surface temperatures on the rise creating fuel for the increasingly devastating and more frequent hurricanes. You might consider looking into it, in other words learn to engage brain before putting mouth in gear!
Lies?
Do you believe in thermometers?
These comments are hilarious. Half of them are people grumbling about climate change not being real, while the other half are trying to educate these people who are either willfully ignorant or else just being straight up trolls. It’s an exercise in futility and I am here for it!
Yet they knew 40 years ago. Their scientists were extremely accurate in their predictions.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/exxon-knew-about-climate-change-almost-40-years-ago/
I know, right? I’m a native of CO and am sick and tired of it all.
I grew up there and some people did, and still do hate snow. Just like people in every State it snows in!
Everything has to be in balance. A system/entity/organism that is out of balance will have more eratic swings to get back into balance. The swings can get so intense that there is destruction or failure to the system.
From the spiritual perspective. Yes thank your Divinity/God Almighty for the blessing of this snow and rain in the Great State. Even with God’s blessings we must learn and work and balanced in God’s green earth.
Even with God’s blessings we must learn and work and strive to balanced on God’s green earth.
I’m in Humboldt. Define northern…If you mean like san fran, thats more central.
And nope, we arent complaining a bit, in Northern California
Thank you! Glad someone knows this.
I will also agree,living in Northern California in the foothills,at the base of the Sierra’s in a small town called Auburn. We just got dumped on with a huge amount of rain and also wind and right above us just a few hundred ft up in elevation,they got more snow then has been seen in a very long time.No one is complaining about the amount of snow or rain,but maybe the wind and the damage it caused.I don’t know where people get the nerve to try to tell us Northern Californians that we are complaining about the rain or snow.Dont put words in our mouth and speak for yourselves wherever you are,all though there has been a large amount of damage due to flooding and winds,we haven’t been complaining and are not ungrateful for all this snow and rain so you can go find another state to try to spread misinformation about them,maybe they won’t stick up for themselves but we are and we are saying what you are trying to spread is mostly lies,end of story
Born and raised in Hayfork,most readers would need to google that one. Drove to Portland just before New Years, in a miata. No chains,no AAA, didnt bother attaching the plow either! Snow isnt a problem,he who hesitates is lost. As individuals we should all feel compelled to do everything we can to reduce our consumption of natural resources and carbon footprint. We convince ourselves of the benefits of health and fitness and get a membership at a gym. That makes us more efficient, so with that same rationale cant we say “I turn off lights I’m not using and try to buy products that are from recycled materials when I can”, cause that too makes us more efficient. We can only hope posterity gets a chance to see the long term results of mother natures progression, Putin may not be willing to leave this earth solo. He may just decide he doesnt want the world to continue going around if hes not part of it. He may just want to be sure his name goes down in history, if there is anyone left to write about it.
That’s true sentiment of those that live here.
And God most certainly did Provide it Too! Inside of 8 weeks straight.
PTL.
Amen!!!
Not me . It’s the news .
Same here, Bill. Hopefully we will get more. Plenty of time left.
Amen! We are very thankful to God for the rain and snow! Some people complain but all the Californians I know are thankful for the rain and snow!
If you are willing to put politics aside for a moment we can all realize that we, the people of this earth…(.the only planet created to sustain human life,) have polluted, and trashed and wasted and ruined so many of the blessings we have been given!
Why are people so proud, selfish and entitled when we should be thankful, giving, and loving as well as acknowledging God and praising Him? Jesus is certainly coming back and I hope and pray we will be ready, in Jesus name amen.❤️❤️
100% truth
AMEN
No one is complaining.
These current levels are astronomical you’re not normal levels that we get here they are above average rare and there are consequences for that that affect those living here as well as the rain that we received
There has not been as much rain or snow in California as there was in 1859. Must have been all those 200 year old SUVs causing climate change back then
The records I found (https://cepsym.org/history/RainfallStreamRunoffSoCA_since1769.pdf) indicate that there was a deficiency in rainfall in Los Angeles, Santa Barbara, and San Diego in 1859. Where can I find information that corroborates what you’re saying?
My link is to a document titled “Rainfall and Stream Run-off in Southern California Since 1769”
Kevin, you’re shitting me right! I’m still amazed at the number of people living in ignorance who don’t know the difference between weather patterns and climate change!
One confused writer wrote. “There has not been as much rain or snow in California as there was in 1859.”
– Supplying Their own contrary information about climate change.
Interesting.
If you dont think the climate is changing…take a trip to Glacier National Park. Glaciers are almost gone. Or look at the damage done to the forests of Yellowstone National Park by pine bark beetles ( due to warmer winters.
If you knew that slowing the warming of our planet would help to stop the extremes the planet is experiencing, would you agree to try? Some of you would not, just like you refuse to believe Trump is not a crook and Biden is our president. It’s called evidence.
We here in CA aren’t complaining! Happy to have the terrific amount of snow. However, what is always a concern is how fast it melts—if it melts slowly, the rivers and streams that carry the melted water can handle the flow without problems; if it melts fast, it causes a lot of damage to the river ways, floodplains, and to wildlife.
Collect the water run off and use it I your state for agriculture purposes.
Will California citizens automatically quit what conservation steps they were taking based on these 1 year totals? My guess is “grass lawns and full pools are in again!”
Robert Walker, I am a native California and proud of it. Keep your misguided thoughts of the people of California to yourself.
Who is complaining?
Cool, Bob
Californians complaining? Extreme weather events caused by Climate Change are real, and Californians taking a stand against pollution by making environmentally sound legislative decisions to help save this planet should be commended not ridiculed by flippant comments. The sure thing is, and this has always been the case, California and New York lead the nation with their innovations and the rest of the country follows witting a decade.
Thank you I also am. Native Calif And this is the first time we had a lot of rain and snow but their are a lot of young idiots that haven’t live here and think that know everything and the weather people don’t know anything they play the drought game to make them look good and climate change well yes it changes all the time everyday every week every month well I could go on but I just ignore the idiots
Lol this is the first time we have had a lot of rain or snow? California has had routine extreme weather for 1000 years. Try taking a history class sometime.
I’m willing to bet that Rich j meant to say, “this isn’t the first time…”. I’m guessing he made a typo as have many others.
That’s true Kevin! I’ve been in Cali for 30+ years. The rains are a cyclical thing. every three to four years drought, and then the major rains/snow. Everyone look at 2017 and there were what they call record levels of rain. Look at 1994/1995 very big rains and the early 2000’s etc. If everyone would look at the past many years, it has been this way. Additionally, in early 1980’s there was extreme droughts on the west coast, followed by the make up of precipitation. Do your own research folks. Climate change is a hoax and more of a way for elites to make money.
Where exactly is the complaint about snow? I can’t find one anywhere. Sounds more like you’re the one complaining and about nothing.
Maybe you should research the 1861/1862 great floods in California
“Those people in California”
You obviously don’t live here, so why bother reading if it doesn’t pertain to you? Move along and enjoy your time instead of sharing your negative judgements.
It’s a pit
Lol so very true “c”. Some people can’t help but try to find someplace they can talk crap knowing nothing about only to make them think they’re feeling better about where they’re at….which clearly is NOT Cali! Lol we freaking love and appreciate all the rain/snowfall and as mentioned, the fact that storm systems have given our ground enough time to soak it up is even better. Sure a couple spots flood in especially rural areas but the only complaints come from news or people out of Cali for some reason. Wonder why that is? Haha
Hopefully we’ll continue to receive more precipitation these next few months, and continue to add to the snow pack. Also, hey, Robert Walker, go f**k yourself.
Spot on.
hahaha
Those people in California? Like we’re terrestrial beings. We don’t complain about the snow, we complain about the mudslides and flooding and fires. The snow is for all to enjoy! Even you people 🙂
Hahaha yes even you people
So. Right. Ppl. Just. Eater. Not. Happy. . Some. Just. Like. To. Bitch
And yet the existing infrastructure that would allow California to capture and divert that snowmelt and filling reservoirs to where it is needed direly, won’t be used, and the water will run into the Pacific Ocean apparently for the sake of an already extinct fish, or some other political nonsense. Newsom could turn on the pumps and divert water to the agricultural areas and Central Valley towns who are running out of water, as well as farther south…but he doesn’t. It is always just wasted by allowing it to flow into the ocean, keeping a manufactured emergency going.
Agriculture already accounts for a huge portion of water usage in California. The link below says 29% in a wet year and 61% in a dry year.
https://www.ppic.org/publication/water-use-in-california/
Perhaps growing food in a desert in a state with little rainfall is a bad idea.
6 months from now I’ll be trying to reduce my water usage while some farmer waters another field of pistachios in the middle of the day.
Where do you propose we find new arable land to replace the huge proportion of our food that is grown in Califs arid valleys? Such ignorance about food production, and elitist attitudes about farmers.
I love Pistachio’s. Every Human is only worried about their own existence, not Mother Earth. Yes human existence may die, some species may also, but new ones will grow and strive. Planet Earth will go on for billions of year and like dinosaurs some get extinct. The next species may be way better off and smart! Let it rain.
Well said , they can’t money off it so they jus let it flow the the ocean
The gov are supposed to be doing that, this year – capturing more flood waters.
“Manufactured emergency” ….totally political!
No supporting facts.
And some people keep complaining that Californians are complaining.
Too much complaining all around — not to mention all the whining and sniveling.
Kind of an insensitive thing to say when people have died in these storms. It’s not just snow we have been getting, it’s all the rain, flooding and the downed trees too. We are no different then any other state in a disaster. Get a grip and go find some other people to criticize.
I live in CA and Im sure nobody is complaining. We are just all surprised and amazed with the amount of water and snow we’re getting this year
No complaining here, just loving it all!! Best winter sports in the country and now our ground water and reservoirs are filling up. We’re celebrating
Thank you Jesus for all the water you have given us!
Thanks Paul for reminding us where it is coming from.
Amen
That’s ridiculous. You must watch Fox news. Complaints are minimal relief is maximum…
So true! Coming from a native Californian. Oy!
Humans complain if there is and if there isn’t it’s not just California’s.
We have to complain about something because Cali is amazing.
Those people in California? Everyone complains if they don’t have enough water. What state are you from ROB? I believe we’re all Americans so try being supportive and quit bi___hing. Have a nice.
These fools talking about “atmospheric bomb” this was the old “Pineapple Express” or the Jetstream tracking lower. California goes through these storm track cycles every 5-7 years… its not that the climate has change only the population. We had a water system that could sustain water supply for during those drought years. We would never have severe droughts if the state didn’t discharge 90% of the water into the ocean just to save a salamander on the endanger list.
We complain even more about the sfb’s who post without a freakin’ clue about punctuation ….yeah, expat Brit (English English Major)) who actual;ly gives a damn about the beautiful language.
Who’s complaining Bob? It’s just a report ⛷️⛷️⛷️
I live in Northern California and I love being able to the snow capped mountains from my place. We eagerly watch the news and joke(?) that we’re excited to be able to shower in August when it’s 113.
The burn scar mudslides are scary but that’s the least of the worries.
It would be great if we could get another few rain storms in late February after some of the water had refilled some of the underground aquifers.
What Californians are you speaking? I haven’t complained one time!
we complain because we worry. Almost zero rain the last 2 decades ( that’s 20 or so years) and LOTS of fires = A disaster when it finally DOES rain. Why don’t you come live in Cali. And have a giant pothole swallow your car or have a mountain side of boulders bury your car while driving. It’s not FAR FETCHED. It happens. A woman and 5 yr old boy were crossing a bridge in their car. The boy was swept away. They were driving on a public paved road. Yes…. we are speaking out. It’s DANGEROUS to leave our homes you idiot!!!!
climate change is real. snow is an indicator because it’s precipitation. looks at snowline elevations. it gets higher and higher. but warmer oceans mean more precip. and dryer dry years. it’s snowing more in super cold areas because it’s warmer. let’s all just stop our wishful agenda and see reality.
It’s all BS the percentages are of snow levels to date, the actual snowpack is still at drought level unless snow continues to pack at sufficient levels until April , in other words we’re still fvcked
Nobody’s complaining.. we’re loving it! Our lakes are finally filling! Bring it on we’re tired of fires and drought…. Bring it on!
Haha. We love our state, stay in yours and continue to be quietly jealous.
It dors not matter they will let the water down out of the lakes and the reservoirs..To produce the power they need for all the airconditiones running during the summer months. They do that with shasta all the time. When the state hits drought status they get aid from the federal government in the billions. Come on people connect the dots. You want answers follow the money..
who s complaining. we are Grateful. for the snow, Rain. alot of us californians are also unfortunate for our homes are very damaged. so why don’t you zip it.
I live in California
Not complaining at all!!! The snow is spectacular!!! 😀
If you lived in California you’d complain about everything you.
I’ve lived in California my entire life. Never once heard of anyone complaining about snow pack, unless we get too little. Or, us that live above 6000′. It’s really beautiful though
Good Call!!!
Who’s complaining? We’re loving it!
Can any of you conservatives whining about climate change make the conservative argument for drill baby drill as a conservative CONSERVATION policy?
Even if you stupidly think humans can’t affect the ecosystem, you’re still drilling millions of tons of oil and setting it on fire in the air we breathe. And then PRETENDING that’s totally fine. Pollution, geopolitical instability, insane military spending AND climate change all tied to oil. And you’re all for it, because you’re ‘conservative’. Rtfl
There r some of us Californian that thank God for all that beautiful snow.
You have a really cynical outlook, how many californians do you know.
I am one of those Californian’s and we complain when we are in a draight yes normal then when we have life changing floods also normal
Visited family back east last year and they all ask the same thing. Oh man, how’s the fires? How’s the drought? How’s the heat? How’s the governor? Must be really bad out there.
I reply, we’re thinking about getting AC next year.
You’re the one complaining, not me.
We have always had the rain and snow,problem lies that there are not enough Dams in the snow packed mountains. Green peace screwed that one up. Saving wildlife is very important but so are the people in this State. Wildlife have survived for years. We need to build more dams to save the snow packed mountains when them melt.
Totally agree
The only thing we may complain about is the devastation the rain has causes. Homes were destroyed and people lost their lives. Snow levels were up in some places 250-300%. So yes, we have a right to be fearful and mourn the lost of everything people worked so hard to achieve.
We complain if it gets under 60 degrees that’s why we pay for it!
Obviously you don’t live in California and have to contend with daughter, snow, fires etc.
People that generalize the population are ignorant and contribute to the problem in this country that is divided. I live in California, I don’t complain much I like to state facts unlike you
Generalizing. We Californians love the rain and the snow. Get your facts straight!
It’s not just a little too much snow. This is extremely dangerous and unusual.
If you don’t want to hear about it then don’t read about it, after all it’s not your problem … right ..??
Love the snow. Don’t have to live in it and only have to drive about hour and 1/2 to get to play in it. But yes, no rain or snow this time of year is worrisome and critical for our reservoirs and our water supply. Now, keep it coming in February and March!
We don’t complain when we get snow. We understand that a great deal of our water comes from the Sierra snowpack. I’m guessing you’re one of those people who has never been to California but loves to make assumptions about Californians.
No. Us people in California will be grateful, believe me.
If we stop watering the desert in southern california we would have half of our problems. But curious, will this help fix our shallow natural aquifers? Not sure how the water seepage works or how long it takes to replenish those that farming uses in central and north cali.
I don’t know where you are from, but if you are from the south or Midwest don’t complain about hurricanes or tornadoes
Exactly
I am sure this is global warming lol
We are hoping the snowpack stays as snow into summer so the melt has room in the already full reservoirs and is not lost to flooding. We are not out of the woods, yet.
Lol who’s complaining? I think it’s great. Hope it keeps.up.
What matters, is how they manage the water, and not release too much into the ocean… Yo
Who cares about California.
No, the snowpack is great. The problem is that a lot of places got half a year’s rainfall in a couple of days
Nobody is complaining about the snow. We aren’t even complaining about the floods, we all knew this was gonna happen because it happens after every draught.
Maybe people shouldn’t build more houses unless all vacant houses r full. Save on the states water.
Then maybe California can stand on its own instead of take water from other states! If there’s no water…duh! Stop building!!
If you don’t live in CA then perhaps you shouldn’t act as if you know anything about us…and if you did at one time then we’re glad you’ve moved on.
Probably couldn’t afford. Eat those sour grapes, they’re cheap
Flooding …yes , snow ….hell yea …..a help ? The ground water drought is so severe we would likely need at least 5-6 years of heavy weather to make a dent , this seasons storms will likely only make about 2-5 % dent in the drought conditions ,
Best be hurriedly bulldozing new cachements ASAP!
Smart homeowners will be banking as much of that extra water as they can!
Plan for extreme drainage as well.
Got to roll with the punches now. Agriculture changed the climate and now must change rapidly in response.
Yes, we should slow it down and soak in every drop we can. The ground can hold 10 times at much water as all the reservoirs.
We are thankful for every drop while praying for safety. Only thing to complain about is the bloviating governor and those before him for not planning ahead. We need to beef up our infrastructure for storing water.
So agree
I love the Gov. He’s so fine and does what the people who voted him in wanted him to do
And yet the lakes are still low and they will still say drought conditions so we have to pay more for water
No! Reservoirs are spilling all over the state. Drought isn’t over when reservoirs are full, it’s a complicated measurement.
Well said. The biggest ones still are at or below 50% so a long way to go. At least the small ones are doing great!
As a born and bred Californian second generation my grandparents came from Mexico in Italy I am not complaining but nice of you to credit us California’s with complaint
Dear Mr Walker, I live in California, was raised here, left for 14 years and am back.
OUTSIDE OF OUR BLIND, DEAF AND DUMB Governor, for the most part we all love Calif. As I am for the US Constitution and truly desire each state to prosper in all ways I try not to judge. Being happy for those who are prospering and sad for those in difficulty. TO FORGIVE IS RIGHT THING TO DO. LOVING AND TAKING CARE OF YOUR NEIGHBOR is to Honor God.
No one is complaining so stop that narrative. It also helps us prevent wildfires. We will be skiing in Mammotj until July, thank you.
Hells yeah we will Djandz!
The snowpack is not 250% of normal. It is 250% of average. It is normal for California to experience several years of below average rainfall called a drought. Then the drought breaks several winters of heavy rain. This is the normal climate of California. It is not climate change.
Actually it’s 250% of normal for this time of year, not average, and no it is not normal for California to experience years of drought to be followed by years of heavy rain and snow. However If you are under the age of 40 or thereabouts it may appear to be the case.
Please stop with the opinion and read your science book first, before commenting on the climate. Please.
Yep
I love rain , snow or any other climate things. California has amazing gorgeous climate it’s impossible to argue with that.
What are we saying about the rain and snow in CA? We’re saying WOW! As an agricultural worker I can say, yes we need moisture, preferably not all at once, nevertheless, we’re grateful. As should you given we represent 11% of the USA’s Agricultural value. We feed you with a smile.
Now if we just had a few reservoirs to capture that awesome snowpack when it turns into run off in May.
I Love it, Everyone’s a critic, like building a reservoir is the simple answer. There is nothing simple about creating reservoirs, which in turn create a host of other issues. There are currently more than 40 reservoirs in California, and at the current rate of world wide population growth 400 will not be enough in 50 years.
Thank you for saying something intelligent.
No need to panic. We will come up with something. We always do.
Appreciate the white snow and rain but there will be another reason to pay more in taxes and extend the drought do to lack of water retention.
I live in LA county, and my tax return shows that last year I paid an effective state tax of 3.7% So, stuff it with your bias against how we run things in Califonia… you’re just jealous that your state isn’t as great as ours.
I am so thankful for the rain and the snow pack that these series of storms have given to California. This will not solve our severe draught but it will give us in CA some relief this summer. Hoping we continue to work on reducing our use of carbon based fuels so that we can begin to heal the damage we have done to our planet. I love the world we live in and am hoping to leave a welcoming climate to my child and grandchildren.
Wait, there are still climate change deniers in 2023?! Anyhoo, in this age of a rapidly warming planet, I appreciate a winter like this even more. Bring on the snow baby!
I believe in our rapid state of global warming; However, if the were no humans, wouldn’t plant life also create global warm in ng? Much slower, but just saying. Thx
“Much slower” being the key phrase. As others have noted, earth has experienced many ice ages and subsequent warming periods in the last several millennia. It’s the RATE of change that has scientists worried. I won’t get into CO2 levels, ice cap and glacier melting, acidifying and warming of oceans, etc., but I’ll leave this quote here directly from NASA: “There is unequivocal evidence that Earth is warming at an unprecedented rate. Human activity is the principal cause.”
Some comments are calling for additional reservoirs to be constructed but the truth is we’ve had difficulty filling the existing ones. I don’t know about anyone else but if my checking account is getting low I don’t start looking for a bigger vault. Also, the water running to the sea isn’t wasted as some have implied. It’s vital to multiple species that are vital to other multiple species which are vital to us. There’s a bigger, logical picture that should be considered.
Who cares if our resevoirs are not full at least we are capturing some of the rain runoff. Building more reservoirs would not only capture more water it would prevent developing the land for housing or business
It is the normal cycle of the earth. We need to pay attention and follow its lead. Why do we build homes in the desert where there is no water? Why do we divert natural rivers and streams? Why do we act surprised when a house built on the cliff near the edge of an ocean falls into the sea or when whole costal towns get washed away by the waves. Humans are constantly at odds with nature trying to change the earth to suit their wants and needs. The truth is we need to have more respect and allow the earth to flourish. We need to live in harmony with it. On a side note…many of us in California prayed for rain last year. (We did not specify how much or when we wanted it). So thank you Lord for the rain. We asked for it and you delivered.
Amen
Amen brother
All I can say about your problems is.the rain pushed my job back a bit. Seems California over dramatized the storms a bit. Here in Santa Rosa anyway . If your all in love with your state, quit moving to mine. Which is Colorado . . And for all you haters, I build buildings all over the this country.
Californians r so dramatic!!
The Dust Bowl period was caused by corporate agribusiness screwing around with Mother Nature.
Wow! I read them all! Fun stuff. My two cents… I grew up in the Bay Area until I was 14. In 1975 or so (don’t call me out if I’m off a year or so). Drought. What is that?! Remember I was young, 12 to be exact.Tow icebergs down from Alaska, then helicopter them into Lake Shasta?! Awesome!! It all went away, why? It started raining. A lot! Shasta filled up, the drought was over. Look it up, it’s true. So I’ve been gleefully following Lake Shasta’s level the past month. Up over 60 feet! Still 86 more to go to reach full pool level. I’m an optimist… she’s going to fill (yes, apparently I’m sexist by labeling a lake with a female pronoun). I must say, if we are witnessing the climate changing almost 50 years later, well, good! Probably just raining a lot this year. Which is good.
I thought you were going to say that during that time in the 70s mainstream media kept saying an Ice Age was coming.
I am from California born and raised and I am definitely not complaining! We went through 8 years of drought got out for a year or two and went right back to drought. The weather here hasn’t been like this since I was a kid. I am excited to see it get back to more of a normal. This weather was the usual. My son and I saw our last rain storm when he was 3, and we didn’t see another one till he was 11, so this makes me happy.
Droughts are natural cyclical events. Water shortages on the other hand are “man made” created by liberal politicians and their environmental activists masters.
Fantastic experience wilderness camping out in the midst of this weather event! An unforgettable weekend. Thanks to the Caltrans plow operator who opened the road gate on 88 so we could return home.
Nobody in California is complaining about the rain and snowpack. 99% of us are happy….soggy, but happy for the rain and snow. We’ve been working our way through this once-in-a-500 year drought. We’re just wary if this is a one time deal or is the drought actually done. The reservoirs are full up, the skiing and snowboarding are the best ever, our crops are expected to be the best in many a year. Here’s an interesting fact. Even in the worst grip of this nasty drought, California was still far and away the greatest agricultural producing state in the Union. Our agricultural output exceeded the 31 Red States, COMBINED!!!! And come Spring, looks like we’ll be having a bumper harvest to end all bumper harvests. Of course, we’ll have to do a better job of collecting all this water. We have to do what the great civilizations have done….build more catch reservoirs, more cisterns and more water diversion systems. Especially in this era or changing climate.